Ksearle69 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:36 pm
@ Arcadiaville What I dont get is where is all the Iberian coming from and what is the red sea? I am though related to the Thomas Trowbridge line featured in who do you think you are on Cindy Crawford. He is a direct ancestor. So since they have all those royal bloodlines I wonder if this is where this is coming from? Also I do have French through my maternal grandmother.
The Thomas Trowbridge line is really interesting - looks like Colonial American aristocracy.
I found one website that documents his genealogy to late-1400s in Somersetshire, England:
" Note that Thomas was born ten years before Columbus stumbled onto the West Indies."
http://whitsettandwall.com/Trowbridge/T ... istory.htm
I show varying & rather high Iberian scores via 2 different commercial DNA kits and possibly slightly different ethnic matches at no. 2-3:
Kit 1:
Closest population distances
Population Distance
EMA_Hinxton5_Anglosaxon 0.740408
IA_Hinxton4_Celtic_Roman 0.7922077
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF22 0.8646375
Kit 2:
EMA_Hinxton5_Anglosaxon 0.8705447
IA_Britain_York_6DRIF18 1.0838266
SZ23_Longobard 1.1616889
I am not certain if the verdict on British origins is resolved, but it has been a popular theory and one promulgated by the Eurogenes Project and creators of this K36 Oracle (L. Mucaga and "Tomenable") that British and Irish primarily descend from Romano British or Iberian peninsula. I have no scientific or genetic training, but I would defer to the "People of the British Isles" study for confirmation of origin myths due to stringent sampling methodology and association with Oxford University Welcomme Trust. OTOH, it is helpful to have non-British (K36 creators are of Polish descent) to impart some objectivity.
A few years ago, I saved the Gedmatch kit # of a frequent European British tester who openly published his kit & results. Since I do not know if he is still active, I will slightly modify his result for privacy but make a comparison of his K36 to K13 results. His stated ancestry was approximately half English, 30% Scottish & 20% Irish.
- K36: Top 3 - N. Sea-23%; N. Atlantic-20%; Iberian-14%
- K13: Top single matches - W. Scottish, Oracadian & Irish. Top 4 matches - 1 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish.
He has a higher N. Sea score than either of my kits but generates results in IMO that look more N. Atlantic on the more modern K13. His closest N. Sea-Scandinavian result would probably be Danish at non. 7 whereas I match this population at lower or closer level in spite of having higher Iberian ratio on K36.
Here are K36 results of a Colonial American tester that received an analysis by the Eurogenes creator, Davidski. He also posted his Gedmatch kit # online, but this was several years ago and I do not know him personally to confirm that he would allow his information to continue to be posted publicly. Therefore, I will slightly modify his % while maintaining the general ratios:
- K36: Top 3 - N. Sea-20%; N. Atlantic-23%; Italian-12%. His Iberian score of 6% seems rather low and S. Euro allocation for British is possibly absorbed in Italian score.
- K13: Top single matches - North_Dutch, Danish & Orcadian. Top 4 matches - Danish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + South_East English.
In the latter case, it is interesting that the tester shows a higher N. Atlantic population in K36 but looks more N. European-Germanic (excluding SE English which is associated with higher Iberian or Romano British by many origin theories) in K13 calculator.
Therefore, I suspect that Colonial British Americans and European British may show widely varying results between N. Atlantic and N. Sea admixture with the inter-K36 calculator and between K36 and modern K13 calculators.
I will look for more Colonial British American results and post any interesting results as the Iberian component would be interesting if derived pre- or post-Colonial. Are you comfortable to post your K36 Oracle results? I would be curious to see.
Can somebody help me? What nationality am I?Russian, balte, finnish? 
