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Re: SAPDA ancestry available at GenePlaza.com now

Post by Arcadiaville » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:21 am

My results - American believed to be of mostly Western Euro - British ancestry:
* 23andMe & updated AncestryDNA assign 1% Native American but unknown per lineage to date.

WEST EURASIAN: 93.4%
EAST EURASIAN: 4.3%
SIBERIAN – AMERICAN: 2.4%
WEST AFRICAN: 0%
EAST AFRICAN: 0%

Admix Proportions:
East Asian Deep Ancestral: 1.95%
East Asian Ancestral: 4.3%

Siberian Amerindian Deep Ancestral: 1.70%
Siberian Amerindian Ancestral: 2.4%

West Eurasian Deep Ancestral: 94.5%
West Eurasian Ancestral: 93.4%

West African Deep Ancestral: 0.70%
West African Ancestral: 0.00%

East African Deep Ancestral: 1.30%
East African Ancestral: 0.00%

GSI:
East Asian Deep Ancestral: 1.35%
East Asian Ancestral: 1.70%

Siberian Amerindian Deep Ancestral: 1.10%
Siberian Amerindian Ancestral: 0.90%

West Eurasian Deep Ancestral: 64.10%
West Eurasian Ancestral: 37.00

West African Deep Ancestral: 0.40%
West African Ancestral: 0.00%

East African Deep Ancestral: 0.90%
East African Ancestral: 0.00%
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Re: SAPDA ancestry available at GenePlaza.com now

Post by Dilawer » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:42 am

jama0112 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:42 am
Dilawer wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:44 am
jama0112 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:51 am
ANyways, that was my ancestral results.

Deep ancestral are 85% west eurasian, 7% east eurasian, 5% siberian-american, 1,5% W-african and 1,5% E-african.


ANyway, is there anything special about these results? Which ones should i rely more on? Ancestral or deep ancestral?
I believe Ancestral would be more informative than Deep Ancestral

W Eurasia 70.6%
E Eurasia 16.1
Siberian 13.3

THis is ancetral results of an indian guy(likely central or south indian).

So im as austroloid/aasi as indians almost?
It’s best to use GSI to compare yourself against individuals of other ethnic backgrounds. Can you post your and his GSI
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Re: SAPDA ancestry available at GenePlaza.com now

Post by Dilawer » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:43 am

Arcadiaville wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:21 am
My results - American believed to be of mostly Western Euro - British ancestry:
* 23andMe & updated AncestryDNA assign 1% Native American but unknown per lineage to date.

WEST EURASIAN: 93.4%
EAST EURASIAN: 4.3%
SIBERIAN – AMERICAN: 2.4%
WEST AFRICAN: 0%
EAST AFRICAN: 0%

Admix Proportions:
East Asian Deep Ancestral: 1.95%
East Asian Ancestral: 4.3%

Siberian Amerindian Deep Ancestral: 1.70%
Siberian Amerindian Ancestral: 2.4%

West Eurasian Deep Ancestral: 94.5%
West Eurasian Ancestral: 93.4%

West African Deep Ancestral: 0.70%
West African Ancestral: 0.00%

East African Deep Ancestral: 1.30%
East African Ancestral: 0.00%

GSI:
East Asian Deep Ancestral: 1.35%
East Asian Ancestral: 1.70%

Siberian Amerindian Deep Ancestral: 1.10%
Siberian Amerindian Ancestral: 0.90%

West Eurasian Deep Ancestral: 64.10%
West Eurasian Ancestral: 37.00

West African Deep Ancestral: 0.40%
West African Ancestral: 0.00%

East African Deep Ancestral: 0.90%
East African Ancestral: 0.00%
Seems your American Indian is consistent with 23’s.
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Post by Arcadiaville » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:19 pm

Dilawer wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:43 am
Seems your American Indian is consistent with 23’s.
Would you mind to elaborate on your basis for saying so? I compared my Siberian/Amerindian score to the 4 other results posted on the thread thus far:
Me: 2.4%
Others:
- LG16: American - Mixed NW / W Euro. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 2%
- LG16 Mother: American - Mixed NW / W Euro. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 3.2%
- Aoda: Euro-French & Italian. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 2.5%
- Jama0112: Afghanistan. Siberian-American 8,9%

I seem to be within range of 3 members with mostly Western Euro ancestry if I interpreted their ethnicity correctly?
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Post by Aoda » Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:24 pm

Arcadiaville wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:19 pm
Dilawer wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:43 am
Seems your American Indian is consistent with 23’s.
Would you mind to elaborate on your basis for saying so? I compared my Siberian/Amerindian score to the 4 other results posted on the thread thus far:
Me: 2.4%
Others:
- LG16: American - Mixed NW / W Euro. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 2%
- LG16 Mother: American - Mixed NW / W Euro. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 3.2%
- Aoda: Euro-French & Italian. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 2.5%
- Jama0112: Afghanistan. Siberian-American 8,9%

I seem to be within range of 3 members with mostly Western Euro ancestry if I interpreted their ethnicity correctly?
In my case, yes (mix of NW Euro and South-Central Euro, though Italy is also listed as a Western Euro country). LG16 is North-Western Euro with some roots in France, from what I gather (correct me if I'm wrong).
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Post by LukaszM » Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:36 pm

Dilawer I will try today and will post. In some calcs I have strange SSA noise. We will see what about it.

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So I do have some alleles for African but it is 0%. There are too little to be counted? Dilawer can you explain those results for me?

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Post by Jeep » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:37 am

Have no ideal. I guess this is more a AIM test. Here are my results
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Re: SAPDA ancestry available at GenePlaza.com now

Post by Dilawer » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:34 am

Arcadiaville wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:19 pm
Dilawer wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:43 am
Seems your American Indian is consistent with 23’s.
Would you mind to elaborate on your basis for saying so? I compared my Siberian/Amerindian score to the 4 other results posted on the thread thus far:
Me: 2.4%
Others:
- LG16: American - Mixed NW / W Euro. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 2%
- LG16 Mother: American - Mixed NW / W Euro. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 3.2%
- Aoda: Euro-French & Italian. SIBERIAN - AMERICAN 2.5%
- Jama0112: Afghanistan. Siberian-American 8,9%

I seem to be within range of 3 members with mostly Western Euro ancestry if I interpreted their ethnicity correctly?
What I mean is that it doesn't contradict the 23 result. As you correctly point out other Europeans score the Amerindian-European component in this test. Unfortunately, this component doesn't distinguish Siberian from American Indian although you may be able to get subtle hints by checking your American-Indian barplot frequency distribution in the "Deep" category. Europeans whose score is due to Siberian shared drift due to Turkic or Uralic geneflow with tend you have "Siberian-Amerindian" alleles whose frequency is non-negligible in NE and W Europeans and S Asians.

By contrast, Americans and Europeans who have Amerindian-Siberian alleles due to recent shared drift with American Indians tend to have alleles whose frequencies are negligible in NE and W Europeans and S Asians.
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Re: SAPDA ancestry available at GenePlaza.com now

Post by Dilawer » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:40 am

LukaszM wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:36 pm
Dilawer I will try today and will post. In some calcs I have strange SSA noise. We will see what about it.

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So I do have some alleles for African but it is 0%. There are too little to be counted? Dilawer can you explain those results for me?

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Lukasz it's a numbers game. Yes, you don't have enough African alleles to indicate any African admixture in the past two thousand years. Keep in mind one can have a couple of alleles here or there coinsidentally simply due to random mutations.I also see that you have 2 copies of an E Asian allele. That for example would have a much lower probabllity of match due to a random event.
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Post by LukaszM » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:02 pm

Dilawer wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:40 am
LukaszM wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:36 pm
In some calcs I have strange SSA noise. We will see what about it.

So I do have some alleles for African but it is 0%. There are too little to be counted? Dilawer can you explain those results for me?
Lukasz it's a numbers game. Yes, you don't have enough African alleles to indicate any African admixture in the past two thousand years. Keep in mind one can have a couple of alleles here or there coinsidentally simply due to random mutations.I also see that you have 2 copies of an E Asian allele. That for example would have a much lower probabllity of match due to a random event.
Ok, thank you. So East Asian is real. Do you plan to improve this test which would specify ancestry on more detailed scale. For example West Asian divided into NW euro, East Euro, Med?
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